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« on: August 02, 2009, 02:43:05 am »

I've learned that:

RCEBlackSprings are awesome, I really dont want to use em.  I have my reasons for this, dont want to post it online.
I'll tell you guys next time I see you.

Besides I'd rather stick to the products I sell anyway.
This is where you guys come in. 

What to do...what to do.....

What Im trying to achieve:
better quality ride
better handling
more aggressive stance, but not too low (1 in front drop / .6 or .8 inch rear - more or less but Im open)
does not take away from snow, dirt, wet performance (I drive on all kinds of mess...photography and scuba)
weekend warrior (I WANT to take it to go play on the track, but I dont know when that will be)
Basically I want something that will enhance my car on all aspects.  Nothing specific really...
Our cars already handle great out of the box, I just want to make it handle a tad bit better and be more stable.  Understeer makes me want to punch babies...so I want to promote oversteer or at least neutralize it. 
I would like to keep my stock struts, tophats etc etc.

This is my list so far:

Swaybars:
Whiteline Adjustable - 24 or 27mm front / 24mm rear
(still debating on front sway size for terrain adaptability - I like to play on dirt etc...any advise?)
Kartboy Solid Endlink front/rear combo

Springs:
I'd like the Prodrive Red 05-07STI springs, but Prodrive pulled out of the US...so thats out...
RCEs are out...
I'm left with
Eibach Springs (havent heard anything about them)
Tanabe G210 Springs (I hear these are too low, but from the pics I see they dont look it)
REVISION - The GF210s are 1.5"F 1"R drop on the pre 06 cars, but the 07s they drop 1"F and .5"R (perfect for me)
Epic Engineering Springs (I hear these are the old prodrive USAs)
Tein H-Tech (I hear these are crap)

Tires:
Thinking of running 245/45/17s or 235/45/17s
This guy is running 245/45/17s and RCE Blacks (not sure if this tire fits only with this spring, or if it will fit regardless)

This is EXACTLY how I want my car to look:






Looking forward to your advise
Thanks guys
Ken







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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2009, 12:59:53 am »

DHAYUM GUYS, THANKS FOR ALL THE INFO!! lol
Its cool, I already made my decision on all my stuff

Gonna go with the:
Tanabe GF210s
Whiteline Adjustable 27F/24R
Kartboy Endlinks

also decided on the:
Injen Bellmouth Catted DP
Blitz Nur Spec Touring Cat-Back

Buyin it tomorrow
Thanks and goodnight
Ken
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2009, 03:03:10 pm »

haah sorry ken for the late responsei think everyone was busy watching Xgames yesterday heh. Oh yeah as for the tanabe i think Thomas has it on his sti right now since he got them from chad.  Send him a PM to see what he thinks about it. Right now i went from stock suspension to tein flex coilovers from ansons wagon lol and it feels awesome but  the suspension travel/ride quality is compromised. The bodyroll is virtually not there anymore haha. On flat and smooth surface the teins rides better then stock. Man sorry to hear the RCE are out i hear alot of good reviews on all of them but its good that you support your own company though heh. Did u look at the Sti pink spring? they dont drop low at all only few mm and gives a higher spring rate

 Ken did u already pick up your cobb accessport?
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2009, 06:23:38 pm »

^ last i heard he has an accessport already.

yeah sorry this site has been dead lately, im barely ever on.

i have the gf210s (chads old ones) and i love them





thats on my 06. since yours is an 07 it will prob be different. but the drop makes the car look so much better but its not low enough where you have to angle a lot to get over stuff or out of driveways (unless you have a lip then you will most likely have to)

as for the sways i believe that combo will give you some over steer, but if they are adjustable you can set them up to be more neutral if you want.

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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2009, 02:27:27 am »

Thomas, are those Continental ConteExtreme Contacts I see on your car??  if so 2 thumbs up 4 u !!!
I'm about to get a set for my car as well.  Had them on my 06 WRX Wagon and they are unstoppable on any surface.
So much grip on dirt and snow and the tire is a hundred bucks a piece, cant beat it for an Ultra High Performance All Weather... Speaking of tires, anyone know where I can get a set for less?  I may as well start an account with a tire depot so I can sell tires.

AAAAANyways....

Yes Anson, I already have my Cobb AP =)

But as far as my list I posted...we...it has changed again after a long long talk with my dealer.
I got my new commissions sheet today and I moved up a tier again!!! yay!!!
So my cost on a lot of stuff was even better than expected. 

I ended up buying:

Power:
Invidia Catted DP
Invidia g200 Cat back
(blitz nur-touring is on a 1.5 month backorder..and ends up would have cost me A LOT more than the G200 cus of dealer price differences...a lot more...) Although I really wanted this, But the wait plus a lot more money = fergetaboutit
Kartboy Hangers
Gaskets


This is coming next month:  On automatic order on Sept 4 (lots of expenses, trying to split it up just to be safe)

Suspension:
Epic Engineering Springs
(dealer said these spring rates are the exact same as the prodive springs. AND the dealer price was a lot better than the Tanabes so thats mainly why i chose em.)  But we gotta drive eachothers cars again Thomas, i wanna see what the GF200s feel like.
Cobb 25mm Sways F/R (same thing, Cost)
Kartboy Solid ends F/R


I'm happy with it.  I think for the street, this stuff is perfect for me.

I cant wait till my TBE comes!!!









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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2009, 08:52:48 am »


AAAAANyways....

Yes Anson, I already have my Cobb AP =)





LOL heh i am not anson i am David!!  Grin but sweet!! oh yeah +1 for those tires i've never used them but i heard good things. i think imma put them on the wagon too when my falken 912 goes bye bye ! Hey Ken if you could get discount from cobb how come u didnt look at their turboback or catback?
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2009, 09:43:38 am »

I'm on good year all seasons. They grip good for all seasons but
I want a nice summer tire. I'm just waiting untill I can afford new wheels so I can run a 255.
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2009, 02:28:10 pm »

they are GF210s... :p

haha..  anyways.. i liked em for what I got outta springs.  but as u had read, i moved on from the springs to coilovers.  RCE T2s.

but yea.. glad to see that you were able to get/buy what you wanted.  The Invidia G200 is sick!  that was an exhaust I was considering.
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2009, 12:53:42 am »


AAAAANyways....

Yes Anson, I already have my Cobb AP =)






LOL heh i am not anson i am David!!  Grin but sweet!! oh yeah +1 for those tires i've never used them but i heard good things. i think imma put them on the wagon too when my falken 912 goes bye bye ! Hey Ken if you could get discount from cobb how come u didnt look at their turboback or catback?


haha, sorry.  Too much working plus too little sleeping = stoopid. 
But about the Cobb products.  I get a good discount with them but with Invidia, its a HUGE discount.

Plus for me it was a personal choice between the Blitz Nur Touring and the Invidia G200.  I liked the Nur Touring better, but after talking to my dealer and thinking about it, The invidias would save me a lot of money, and besides, I really should use stuff I want to push to sell.

Example:
If someone called me today to order a nur touring catback, I'd have to tell them it would be almost 2 months by the time it got to them (backorder plus shipping.)  With invidia, its all in stock ready to ship. 

I'll explain all this more in depth when I see you guys.  I really dont wanna start posting up dealer costs online n shiz lol.

As for the tires, yeah those Continental ConteExtremes rock.  Try em out guys, you'll love em.  (bang for the buck, cant beat them in the all weathers.  Shit, they grip better than even some of the more expensive summer tires...
check out this chart:  only 2 tires are as good / better in consistency as the ContiExtremes, but compare the cost...and you'll know what I'm talking about.

Ultra High Performance All Weather Tire Chart:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=UHPAS

Extreme Performance Summer Tires:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=EP

Max Performance Summer Tires:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=MP

These charts and reviews really helped me, hope it helps you guys out for your next set

Thanks again guys
Take care
Ken


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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2009, 06:47:39 am »

Oh ic haha dope dude Smiley!! thanks for the info about the tires for sure imma get them on my next set!
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